# The set definition was used before the set was created **URL:** \ **Category:** Uncategorized\ **Created:** [December 18, 2022, 12:55pm UTC](https://calculix.discourse.group/t/the-set-definition-was-used-before-the-set-was-created/1405 "2022-12-18T12:55:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Awareness](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/82dd89/32.png) [@Awareness](https://calculix.discourse.group/u/Awareness)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2022, 12:55pm UTC](https://calculix.discourse.group/t/the-set-definition-was-used-before-the-set-was-created/1405/1 "2022-12-18T12:55:43Z")
!Hello there, [txt|473x500](https://calculix.discourse.group/uploads/short-url/tuExUF7y3TtLuXFgY6rEHaY9lND.png) ![fbd](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/free1/uploads/calculix/original/2X/1/1520e64de87f36e2203a8280ba1a28b88a2b4e9d.png) ![inp](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/free1/uploads/calculix/original/2X/e/e56f6fdc91a6e0cf25438246990e45f6cebb98eb.png) Explanations on what I did wrong would be grateful. ---
**Author:** ![jbr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ecccb3/32.png) [@jbr](https://calculix.discourse.group/u/jbr)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2022, 3:04pm UTC](https://calculix.discourse.group/t/the-set-definition-was-used-before-the-set-was-created/1405/2 "2022-12-18T15:04:55Z")
You have to import the mesh first, and if you want to include the fix.dlo and load.dlo at the step level, you can do that there. Remove them from lines 2 and 3. ---
**Author:** ![Awareness](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/82dd89/32.png) [@Awareness](https://calculix.discourse.group/u/Awareness)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2022, 3:51pm UTC](https://calculix.discourse.group/t/the-set-definition-was-used-before-the-set-was-created/1405/3 "2022-12-18T15:51:34Z")
Thank you for your prompt reply but, funny thing, I got import concerning netgen in cgx manual and nothing in ccx manual. And how to do import beam.msh before any thing else I have no idea yet. ---
**Author:** ![Awareness](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/82dd89/32.png) [@Awareness](https://calculix.discourse.group/u/Awareness)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2022, 5:16pm UTC](https://calculix.discourse.group/t/the-set-definition-was-used-before-the-set-was-created/1405/4 "2022-12-18T17:16:27Z")
$send beam frd - this I did not issue in the first place. I come to other issue. $ccx beam \*Error reading \*Boundary. Card image: 1,P1,2.422500E+03 Do not figure out yet how to apply load to beam sides at once. ---
**Author:** ![JuanP74](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/b5a626/32.png) [@JuanP74](https://calculix.discourse.group/u/JuanP74)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2022, 5:54pm UTC](https://calculix.discourse.group/t/the-set-definition-was-used-before-the-set-was-created/1405/5 "2022-12-18T17:54:57Z")
what are the commands that create your includes? I do not see any set created in cgx with the name of Ebeam that can be translated into a CCX element set with the same name using the command `send all abq nam` ---
**Author:** ![Awareness](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/82dd89/32.png) [@Awareness](https://calculix.discourse.group/u/Awareness)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2022, 6:10pm UTC](https://calculix.discourse.group/t/the-set-definition-was-used-before-the-set-was-created/1405/6 "2022-12-18T18:10:58Z")
I used $send fix abq names $send load abq names And nodes and elements numbers I have in those files. I will try to correct. ---
**Author:** ![JuanP74](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/b5a626/32.png) [@JuanP74](https://calculix.discourse.group/u/JuanP74)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2022, 6:11pm UTC](https://calculix.discourse.group/t/the-set-definition-was-used-before-the-set-was-created/1405/7 "2022-12-18T18:11:53Z")
check this example: [CalculiX-Examples/Linear/BiaxBending at master · calculix/CalculiX-Examples · GitHub](https://github.com/calculix/CalculiX-Examples/tree/master/Linear/BiaxBending) ---
**Author:** ![Awareness](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/82dd89/32.png) [@Awareness](https://calculix.discourse.group/u/Awareness)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2022, 6:18pm UTC](https://calculix.discourse.group/t/the-set-definition-was-used-before-the-set-was-created/1405/8 "2022-12-18T18:18:05Z")
My connection is really slow so I will reach the mentioned example tomorrow. ---
**Author:** ![JuanP74](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/b5a626/32.png) [@JuanP74](https://calculix.discourse.group/u/JuanP74)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2022, 7:44pm UTC](https://calculix.discourse.group/t/the-set-definition-was-used-before-the-set-was-created/1405/9 "2022-12-18T19:44:48Z")
I think is the discourse server…it’s been slow since a few days ago ---
**Author:** ![Awareness](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/82dd89/32.png) [@Awareness](https://calculix.discourse.group/u/Awareness)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2022, 11:40am UTC](https://calculix.discourse.group/t/the-set-definition-was-used-before-the-set-was-created/1405/10 "2022-12-19T11:40:17Z")
Right, I run the example, all went smooth with exception, several warnings \*WARNING in calinput. Card image cannot be interpreted: WARNING reading the input file. Card image: \*KINEMATIC And several others, rather difficult to print them all on my mobile. May it be because of my version cgx\_2.11, ccx\_2.11? While trying to simulate: $cgx file.frd freeglut (cgx): menue manipulation not allowed while menues in use. ---
**Author:** ![JuanP74](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/b5a626/32.png) [@JuanP74](https://calculix.discourse.group/u/JuanP74)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2022, 1:00pm UTC](https://calculix.discourse.group/t/the-set-definition-was-used-before-the-set-was-created/1405/11 "2022-12-19T13:00:53Z")
the example was tested in v2.19. keyword \*kinematic was introduced in v2.12. Anyway what I suggested is that you should check out the way CGX is used to create sets to define boundary conditions in elements and/or nodes. ---
**Author:** ![Awareness](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/82dd89/32.png) [@Awareness](https://calculix.discourse.group/u/Awareness)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2022, 1:58pm UTC](https://calculix.discourse.group/t/the-set-definition-was-used-before-the-set-was-created/1405/12 "2022-12-19T13:58:56Z")
All right, I am on it. ---
**Author:** ![Awareness](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/82dd89/32.png) [@Awareness](https://calculix.discourse.group/u/Awareness)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2022, 6:34pm UTC](https://calculix.discourse.group/t/the-set-definition-was-used-before-the-set-was-created/1405/13 "2022-12-19T18:34:03Z")
# Here we go. # It is a code and my notes along the code. # If you do not mind to read and figure out # what I missed. Lot of thank in advance. # rotated rectangle section pnt ! 0 5 25 # plot p all - nothing is plotted # The set ”all” is created automatically at startup and will # be open (see seto) all the time unless explicitly closed (see setc). # Two points gives line swep all new tra 0 -10 0 2 # plot p all - nothing is plotted # plot l all - nothing is plotted # This is 3rd point swep all new tra 0 0 -50 8 # plot p all - nothing is plotted move all rot x 45 swep all load tra 200 0 0 10 # plot sa load - as expected # Somehow I managed not to understand how # all that ‘swep’ happened to plot a right model. # ref nodes node 1 200 0 0 seta ref n all # meshing elty all he8i mesh all # quick and dirty support seta nodes n load # plot n nodes # is as expected # This command is used to locate entities from a certain set (first # provided set) and stores them in the second set. # But surfaces can only be identified if the command “rep ” # was issued before. The mode is defined by the keys ’i’ individual. # Only the closest entity of all kinds of entities are stored in set # ’support’, triggered by the ’i’ key. enq nodes support rec 0 \_ 10 1 i # strange enough I did not mean it # plot na support # draws my complete structure? I cannot understand it. # write mesh and sets send all abq send all abq nam # plot of mesh and ref node frame zoom 1.5 rot -x rot c 90 rot l 10 rot u 10 view elem plot n ref r plus f all n plus f load g plus n ref b 10 plus n support r 10 # hcpy png Refs/mesh ---
**Author:** ![JuanP74](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/b5a626/32.png) [@JuanP74](https://calculix.discourse.group/u/JuanP74)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2022, 8:06am UTC](https://calculix.discourse.group/t/the-set-definition-was-used-before-the-set-was-created/1405/14 "2022-12-20T08:06:50Z")
> [@Awareness](#): > > - nothing is plotted try `frame` command (or the equivalent in the GUI), maybe you’re not looking where the point is ---
**Author:** ![JuanP74](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/b5a626/32.png) [@JuanP74](https://calculix.discourse.group/u/JuanP74)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2022, 8:10am UTC](https://calculix.discourse.group/t/the-set-definition-was-used-before-the-set-was-created/1405/15 "2022-12-20T08:10:03Z")
not sure what’s your question. Did you get what you wanted? ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/free1/uploads/calculix/original/2X/4/44aecdd537344042f2402e1ee8601089e215a797.png) ---
**Author:** ![Awareness](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/82dd89/32.png) [@Awareness](https://calculix.discourse.group/u/Awareness)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2022, 10:50am UTC](https://calculix.discourse.group/t/the-set-definition-was-used-before-the-set-was-created/1405/16 "2022-12-20T10:50:33Z")
Plot na support draw the complete structure and I expect it draws around load set. And that’s what I wanted. And by the way I cannot understand what tolerance is in CalculiX. And I do know what tolerance means in producing a part of something. Need an example of tolerances. ---
**Author:** ![Awareness](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/82dd89/32.png) [@Awareness](https://calculix.discourse.group/u/Awareness)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2022, 10:53am UTC](https://calculix.discourse.group/t/the-set-definition-was-used-before-the-set-was-created/1405/17 "2022-12-20T10:53:16Z")
May be you are right I will after job time. ---
**Author:** ![JuanP74](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/b5a626/32.png) [@JuanP74](https://calculix.discourse.group/u/JuanP74)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2022, 11:55am UTC](https://calculix.discourse.group/t/the-set-definition-was-used-before-the-set-was-created/1405/18 "2022-12-20T11:55:11Z")
`plot na support` only plots the FEM outline, because in fact that set is empty. Use `plot` command to renew the plot only, if you want to keep previously plotted entities use `plus` instead. `prnt se` will show you a list of all sets created and their contents: ```auto prnt se 1 all stat:o n:298 e:160 f:232 p:8 l:12 c:0 s:6 b:1 L:0 S:0 se:0 sh:0 v:0 3 new stat:c n:4 e:0 f:0 p:3 l:1 c:0 s:0 b:0 L:0 S:0 se:0 sh:0 v:0 4 load stat:c n:27 e:0 f:16 p:4 l:4 c:0 s:1 b:0 L:0 S:0 se:0 sh:0 v:0 5 ref stat:c n:1 e:0 f:0 p:0 l:0 c:0 s:0 b:0 L:0 S:0 se:0 sh:0 v:0 6 nodes stat:c n:27 e:0 f:0 p:0 l:0 c:0 s:0 b:0 L:0 S:0 se:0 sh:0 v:0 7 -NJBY stat:c n:0 e:0 f:0 p:0 l:0 c:0 s:0 b:0 L:0 S:0 se:0 sh:0 v:0 8 support stat:c n:0 e:0 f:0 p:0 l:0 c:0 s:0 b:0 L:0 S:0 se:0 sh:0 v:0 plot na support ``` ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/free1/uploads/calculix/original/2X/4/471a0ab1ae5e4545d16b9702686d12080c5791e0.png) ---
**Author:** ![JuanP74](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/b5a626/32.png) [@JuanP74](https://calculix.discourse.group/u/JuanP74)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2022, 1:10pm UTC](https://calculix.discourse.group/t/the-set-definition-was-used-before-the-set-was-created/1405/19 "2022-12-20T13:10:31Z")
```auto seta support A001 comp support e comp support f plot f support ``` notice faces have 2 sides (different color): positive/negative now you can create a surface from this: `send support abq surf` or a node set `send support abq nam` or a pressure to the faces in the set `send load abq pres 0.05` that will be useful to define your boundary conditions. ---
**Author:** ![Awareness](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/82dd89/32.png) [@Awareness](https://calculix.discourse.group/u/Awareness)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2022, 1:16pm UTC](https://calculix.discourse.group/t/the-set-definition-was-used-before-the-set-was-created/1405/20 "2022-12-20T13:16:43Z")
Great, but what I miss if I use enq, may be because of that infinity value? [Next page](https://calculix.discourse.group/t/the-set-definition-was-used-before-the-set-was-created/1405.md?page=2)