# \*DAMPING,STRUCTURAL= for \*DYNAMIC

**URL:** https://calculix.discourse.group/t/damping-structural-for-dynamic/2271
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**Created:** [May 13, 2024, 3:35pm UTC](https://calculix.discourse.group/t/damping-structural-for-dynamic/2271 "2024-05-13T15:35:46Z")
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### Author: ![calc4fem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3da27b/32.png) [@calc4fem](https://calculix.discourse.group/u/calc4fem)
#### Post date: [May 13, 2024, 3:35pm UTC](https://calculix.discourse.group/t/damping-structural-for-dynamic/2271/1 "2024-05-13T15:35:46Z")

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Looks like it doesn’t damping?  
Help says “… This card must be part of  
a material description.” what is not completely clear  
For example for previous topic with simple amplitude

 ![11111](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/free1/uploads/calculix/original/2X/e/ea74934c1e59f2d6c25829e81d20f9c6e452f5d9.png)

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### Author: ![JuanP74](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/b5a626/32.png) [@JuanP74](https://calculix.discourse.group/u/JuanP74)
#### Post date: [May 13, 2024, 3:41pm UTC](https://calculix.discourse.group/t/damping-structural-for-dynamic/2271/2 "2024-05-13T15:41:39Z")

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Hello, could you plot the input load?

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### Author: ![calc4fem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3da27b/32.png) [@calc4fem](https://calculix.discourse.group/u/calc4fem)
#### Post date: [May 13, 2024, 4:55pm UTC](https://calculix.discourse.group/t/damping-structural-for-dynamic/2271/3 "2024-05-13T16:55:50Z")

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```auto

*NODE,NSET=NALL
1,0.,0.,0.
2,1.,0.,0.
3,2,0,0

*ELEMENT,TYPE=SPRINGA,ELSET=ESpring
1,1,2

*ELEMENT,TYPE=B31,ELSET=Emass
2,2,3

*BOUNDARY
1,1,3
2,2,3
3,2,3

*SPRING,ELSET=Espring

768310.

*MATERIAL,NAME=EL
*ELASTIC
2.1e11,.3
*DENSITY
1130
*DAMPING,STRUCTURAL=0.1

*beam section, elset=Emass,material=EL,section=rect
1,1

*AMPLITUDE,NAME=StartAndStop
0,0,1,1,10,1

*TIME POINTS,NAME=T1,GENERATE
0,10,0.005

*step, nlgeom, inc=100000000
*dynamic
0.0001,10,1.0E-08,2.0E-03

*CLOAD,AMPLITUDE=StartAndStop
3,1,213184

**Displacements
*node file,timepoints=T1
u

*endstep

```

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### Author: ![Calc\_em](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/43a26b/32.png) [@Calc\_em](https://calculix.discourse.group/u/Calc_em)
#### Post date: [May 13, 2024, 5:29pm UTC](https://calculix.discourse.group/t/damping-structural-for-dynamic/2271/4 "2024-05-13T17:29:47Z")

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Structural damping should be used only in SSD analyses:

> This card is used to define Rayleigh damping for implicit and explicit dynamic calculations (\*DYNAMIC) and structural damping for steady state dynamics calculations (\*STEADY STATE DYNAMICS).

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### Author: ![JuanP74](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/b5a626/32.png) [@JuanP74](https://calculix.discourse.group/u/JuanP74)
#### Post date: [May 13, 2024, 7:05pm UTC](https://calculix.discourse.group/t/damping-structural-for-dynamic/2271/5 "2024-05-13T19:05:21Z")

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Not sure if input is same as in your previous post…[\*dynamic - weird results - #11 by JuanP74](https://calculix.discourse.group/t/dynamic-weird-results/2266/11)

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### Author: ![calc4fem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3da27b/32.png) [@calc4fem](https://calculix.discourse.group/u/calc4fem)
#### Post date: [May 14, 2024, 11:22am UTC](https://calculix.discourse.group/t/damping-structural-for-dynamic/2271/6 "2024-05-14T11:22:27Z")

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yes, it is the same thing, but different amplitude.  
So, as far as it is true, the only way to use Rayleigh

> **[Computing Rayleigh Damping Coefficients | Knowledge Base | SimScale](https://www.simscale.com/knowledge-base/rayleigh-damping-coefficients/)**
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> Learn how to compute the coefficients for the rayleigh damping model for harmonic and dynamic FEA simulations in SimScale.

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### Author: ![Calc\_em](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/43a26b/32.png) [@Calc\_em](https://calculix.discourse.group/u/Calc_em)
#### Post date: [May 14, 2024, 11:28am UTC](https://calculix.discourse.group/t/damping-structural-for-dynamic/2271/7 "2024-05-14T11:28:18Z")

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Yeah, in Abaqus this type of damping is also supported only in a few linear dynamics procedures. The problem is that CalculiX doesn’t warn about an incorrect usage of this keyword.
